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Hello all! With all this talk of Coffee Outside action, it's a good time to talk about how to do it. A picture speaks a thousand words, so here goes:


So there you have it! [wink]

But seriously, if you are new to the Coffee Outside thing, and want to start, you'll need:
  1. Coffee! (duh) You can have it pre-ground, or grind it there. You'll of course need a small grinder to do that.
  2. A way to boil water.
  3. A way to brew the coffee.
Here would be a bare-bones, inexpensive way to to it.
  1. Get whatever coffee is on sale. You can probably find it for $5 at the cheapest, or get a small amount from a bulk bin in the grocery store. Make sure you use the coffee grinder there if you need it! For best results, avoid stuff like Folgers, MJB, etc.
  2. The cheapest boiling water setup would be to use the Esbit fuel stove. REI and MEC sells it, plus other outdoor places. The basic stove plus six solid fuel tabs retails for $13 from REI. Fuel tabs are sold as twelve-packs for $8. http://www.rei.com/product/653343/esbit-pocket-stove
  3. The cheapest way to brew would be pour-over. You can get Melitta #2 cone filter holders from grocery stores and the like for about $4, plus the paper filters are $2-3 a pack. http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/melitta-pour-over-single-cup-brewing-cone/1010182077?skuId=10182077&mcid=PS_googlepla_nonbrand_kitchenelectrics_&adpos=1o1&creative=43742642989&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=Cj0KEQiA6bq2BRC6ppf0_83Z1YIBEiQAgPYNve3_saRwFxmd_5OMC0NKcNpMtJeZnDyUxENmECLT9wcaAkxo8P8HAQ
  4. And of course, cups! Cheap enameled steel camping mugs are...cheap! And resilient. You'd need at least two with this setup, one to boil the water (make sure you have something to grip that hot handle) and one to do the pour over. You can find these mugs at the Targets of the world, outdoor gear stores, and of course MEC/REI. Five bucks each! http://www.rei.com/product/401162/gsi-outdoors-baked-enamelware-cup-12-oz
So with the setup above, you can get going with spending just under $30 (not including coffee) but you can probably figure it out for even cheaper, like bringing a mug from home for pourover. And we can get more complicated, too! 

If you want to do more than just boil water, I'd suggest getting a more multi-purpose stove setup. The Trangia 28 backpackers kit uses either denatured alcohol or methyl alcohol (called "meths" in the UK, but in the US we can easily find it in the yellow bottle of HEET). You can get it over at Campsaver. (In fact, all solid fuel and alcohol stoves are 20% off right now, and free shipping on orders $50 and over.) The Trangia 28 is my favorite stove, hands-down.
http://www.campsaver.com/minitrangia-28-t-stove-kit

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I imagine that some sort of wind screen will help get the water to a boil quicker?
Hey...how about this one?
http://www.campsaver.com/m-kettle-sas-hard-anodized-aluminium
That and a filter and a mug ?

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I imagine that some sort of wind screen will help get the water to a boil quicker?


Yep.


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Hey...how about this one? http://www.campsaver.com/m-kettle-sas-hard-anodized-aluminium That and a filter and a mug ?


The "kelly" style kettles are cool, but I find to be a bit overkill for what they are. The Trangia 28 is about half that price, and you can even fry eggs with it.

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Thanks Shawn,

I just remembered that I still have a gift card from LL Bean, and they have a retail store up in Albany.
I happened across your review of the kettle last night.

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Thanks Shawn, I just remembered that I still have a gift card from LL Bean, and they have a retail store up in Albany. I happened across your review of the kettle last night.


I just poked through the LL Bean site. Doesn't look like that much in the way of bike camping gear, it's mostly geared towards bigger car camping stuff. There are a few canister fuel stoves, though, so that would work.

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And if anyone is looking at Campsaver, they have an additional 20% off sale items with this code: CLEARANCE20 expires 3/3
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Another vote for the Trangia 28. It works so well for me that I gave my MSR Whisperlite to my son. So simple yet so efficient.
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Another vote for the Trangia 28. It works so well for me that I gave my MSR Whisperlite to my son. So simple yet so efficient.


Yep! I was so much happier when I got my Trangia 28. I basically stopped using my standard canister stove after that. I did sell the canister stove, but someone gave me another, so I have that one "just in case". I prefer the Trangia, but in some areas an alcohol stove is considered "open flame" and is banned when fire restrictions go in during the summer, whereas the canister stove is not banned since it has a "valve".

I like my Trangia 27 when I need it (usually for group camping, or if I know it's going to be really windy) but otherwise, the Trangia 28 is my go-to.

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How about this one as a starter? I think it can be converted to a fuel burner as well.
I can buy this one cheap.
Esbit-E-CS585HA-Solid-Fuel-Stove-and-Cookset

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How about this one as a starter? I think it can be converted to a fuel burner as well. I can buy this one cheap.


Now Spencer, you know you won't be a true Coffee Outsider without a Trangia! Why are you avoiding buying one? [wink]

And how cheap can you get that Esbit stove? At Rei, the current price is $30. The Trangia 28 I keep on pushing is only $31.18 at Campsaver. 

That Esbit stove is fine, and I have it. But it's really only good for boiling water. If you can get it for a better deal than $30, sure. But for just a little more, you can get the Trangia which can boil water and also can fry things. It's much more versatile. But it's your choice. 

Now get ready to join the ranks of us fellow Coffee Outsiders! [biggrin]

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I bet that'll make a boil!  Why not give it a try?  Coffee or tea?  Or both?  What is your anticipated brew method?
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Now Spencer, you know you won't be a true Coffee Outsider without a Trangia! Why are you avoiding buying one? [wink]


HeeHee...I can get that kit for 21 dollars and free shipping. It looks like it will pack up small?

Then a little film canister of tasters choice and I'm good... Right?.I can use a stick to stir. Maybe black birch for taste. 
(I'm laughing so hard its hard to type)

Seriously...I thought I would try this one with a pour over filter and a coffee mug.




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HeeHee...I can get that kit for 21 dollars and free shipping. It looks like it will pack up small?


Yes, it will. And it's a decent little stove that will boil water. It's good to fashion a windscreen for maximum efficiency.

And I'm not going to dissuade you if you are set on the Esbit. But for a few dollars more, you'll get a more versatile stove set with the Trangia.

And an important thing to think of is fuel. A box of 12 Esbit tablets runs about $8. That's 12 uses, though sometimes you might need more than one tablet to bring water to a boil. And Esbit tablets aren't that common. Here in Portland I know of three places that carry it. Elsewhere, you'll need to buy your fuel online.

Trangia uses alcohol, which is ready available. I use HEET in the yellow bottle. It's methyl alcohol and costs about $2. I can get 3 or 4 stove fills with that, and a full Trangia burner usually gets two boils. And HEET is sold in gas stations and mini Mart's, so very available.

I know you have mentioned before that sometimes you go for the cheaper option and then decide you want to upgrade later. So I'm just saying that you should consider all your options.

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well, i got the little Esbit in the mail today so of course, I had to play with it.
my observations are that the little bricks of Seal blubber or whatever, STINK!! smells like fish food or something.
I guess they need to go in a sealed baggie.
I put approximately 14oz cool water in the pot, put the cover on and got a weak boil just about the time the brick burnt out.
It does work and I did not use a wind shield, I am going to try it again just to see how it goes.
No coffee made yet!
What is cool is the whole kit along with a little bag of coffee and a filter appears to fit in my small saddle bag.

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What is cool is the whole kit along with a little bag of coffee and a filter appears to fit in my small saddle bag.


Huzzah!  Compact and coffee ready.  That's what I like to hear.

In my experience, the windscreen makes a significant difference.  I made mine out of a cheap, grocery store basking pan.  I fold mine into thirds for easy storage, and figured it would wear out quickly at the folds.  It surprise me by lasting a few years, but it probably is time to make a new one.


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